Even though it may not make much sense for the Pac-12 to go this route -- VTHokie2000 03/25/2019 1:13PM Good discussion below. -- 2hhoop3 03/28/2019 2:25PM Let's see. Stability for decades. More revenue for the PAC12 network. -- HOO86 03/25/2019 7:19PM I seriously doubt ESPN was willing to offer the Pac-12 more money -- VTHokie2000 03/25/2019 9:56PM They would if they locked in long term. -- HOO86 03/25/2019 10:43PM The Pac-12 seems to disagree with your assessment -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 11:43AM The PAC12 is betting on more digital outlets to have a bidding war on PAC12 -- HOO86 03/26/2019 12:54PM Except you can't be sure ESPN was willing to offer the Pac-12 more money -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 1:02PM ESPN probably offered them what they are worth. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 1:29PM Or low balled them to save a buck -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 2:03PM I figure espn probably doesn't necessarily want the Pac-12 properties. -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 02:43AM ESPN wants to be THE College Sports Source. -- HOO86 03/29/2019 2:38PM If ESPN did manage to get all the college networks -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 4:33PM Not if they are of their creation. -- HOO86 03/29/2019 4:52PM Except not all the networks are of ESPN's creation though -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 5:02PM ESPN is never going to have everything -- HOO86 03/29/2019 5:31PM I am not sure it is a moot point though because the NCAA didn't control -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 5:23PM The NCAA violated it because no college team could go anywhere else. -- HOO86 03/29/2019 5:38PM I believe at the time Penn had its own TV contract -- VTHokie2000 03/30/2019 08:14AM NCAA banned individual school TV contracts in 1951 -- HOO86 03/30/2019 12:52PM You may be right about ESPN not really wanting the Pac-12 properties -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:22AM Right now PAC12 is in a bad deal with the PAC12 Networks. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 2:30PM Even if the Pac-12 Network is currently a bad deal -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 3:28PM I'm almost cheering for them to succeed -- EDGEMAN 03/27/2019 08:57AM I definitely agree that the Pac-12 is at a huge disadvantage -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 10:35AM Clearly that's what Larry Scott thinks. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 4:01PM Maybe it does under perform to the point of embarrassment -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 4:12PM SEC goes through 2034 with ESPN. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 4:56PM The ACC should have insisted its media deal be on the SEC timeline -- EDGEMAN 03/27/2019 09:02AM "Should" being the key here, but stranger things can happen -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 5:01PM Obviously, for an on going concern, what comes 20 years after ... -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 02:52AM True, but there are fans in other age groups who may have an interest -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:59AM The ACC basically followed the SEC model, PAC must feel smarter than SEC on -- Stech 03/26/2019 12:09PM Where money might be different, ACC MODEL with ESPN is different -- Mercury 03/26/2019 6:54PM Agreed, I meant we partnered with ESPN like the SEC did, PAC is doing the -- Stech 03/26/2019 9:13PM One thing now for sure. Turning down ESPN killed any PAC12 shot at Texas. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 5:19PM But is that a "final" offer from espn? -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 02:32AM No way to know. The report is past tense. No idea of current discussion. ** -- HOO86 03/29/2019 5:19PM Re: One thing now for sure. Turning down ESPN killed any PAC12 shot at Texas. -- Stech 03/26/2019 9:20PM Even if the Pac-12 had signed the deal, Texas to the Pac-12 may still -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 5:47PM You now no longer need to use the word "may". It is now solid. ** -- HOO86 03/26/2019 6:45PM My point was it was solid prior to the Pac-12 making its decision ** -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 10:51AM Before the only shot was if ESPN owned the PAC-12 rights. Now No Shot. -- HOO86 03/27/2019 4:44PM And that "only shot" you reference was probably somewhere -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 4:59PM PAC-12 is following Big East Football Conference model. -- HOO86 03/26/2019 12:59PM It may not even be a question of whether the Pac-12 believes it is smarter -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 12:39PM So you would pick the PAC model over the SEC model? Please yes or no then -- Stech 03/26/2019 5:08PM It isn't a black-n-white answer because there are other factors -- VTHokie2000 03/26/2019 5:17PM Well Larry Scott/PAC put them in that position to get that offer so I don’t -- Stech 03/26/2019 9:03PM Because you do not know how much ESPN was willing to pay them -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 10:49AM Did espn low ball the Pac-12? Sure they did. -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 02:21AM I don't disagree with anything you said -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:18AM And I agree with your agreement. : ) -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 09:24AM You are right the Pac-12 is probably foolish for turning down an ACC-type -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:35AM Anyone who has any doubt on Swofford's media dealing is correct. -- Atlee Hokie 03/29/2019 09:42AM If Swofford was handling the negotiations himself -- VTHokie2000 03/29/2019 09:48AM Okay I get it, you back the PAC, that you Bill Walton? 😁 -- Stech 03/27/2019 6:52PM No, I am not Bill Walton. Nor do I support the Pac-12 or the SEC. -- VTHokie2000 03/27/2019 7:12PM
